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message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     20-Nov-09 11:43 AM    
DECLAN YOU NEED TO GET ALL YOUR CASH OUT QUICK MATE, THIS SCANDAL IS MASSIVE
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article151...

ALTHOUGH ITS MOSTLY ABOUT GOLD BUT THE EFT WITH SLVand GLD IS THE ONE WHICH ARE RUN BY THE CROOKS JP MORGAN AND HSBC WHO ARE SHORT OVER 60% OF THE GOLD AND SILVER IN THE COMEX(WHICH IS ILLEGAL) BUT THE SEC DOES NOTHING DONT YOU THINK THATS STRANGE
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Re: message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     20-Nov-09 02:06 PM    
Liam

I have tried to explain this several times ... god knows why but I will try again.

I do not own shares of SLV

I have options.

Some of the options will make money if the price of SLV rises.

Some of the options will make money if the price of SLV falls.

If the value of SLV goes to zero, I will do OK out of it. Trust me.
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Re: message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     20-Nov-09 04:25 PM    
Out on a Limb,

I read some of the article you posted. It seemed to follow along these lines:

“In October, the Hong Kong bankers discovered some gold bars shipped from the United States were actually tungsten with gold plating”

Which supports the theory that

“a president from yesteryear with his Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary might have swapped the entire contents of Fort Knox.”

Which might indicate that

“So did they not only lease the national treasure of gold, but swapped it first, then leased tungsten gold?”

Therefore

“Current estimates among the gold trader community run well past a few hundred thousand 'salted' gold bars, maybe over a million.”

All this based on a story about bankers discovering a tungsten gold bar. So I have tried to find the original story. Can't find it anywhere, no reference that I could see.

Do you know of a reference to it?


Revelation 3:18
I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich.

P.S. Hope you haven't put your house on gold.
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Re: message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     20-Nov-09 04:56 PM    
James

David Ike and Ron Paul have some Tungsten-flavoured-gold 'information' on their websites/ forums.

That's a pretty poor measure by anyone's standards.

Like you, I have not been able to find a reputable source (not even a newspaper) that has any details on any tungsten plated gold being either delivered to Fort Knox or discovered in HK.

A cover-up?!!

I doubt it.

If I was a journalist I would love it if I had a scoop on this, but then my articles kept disappearing from the internet. Love it.

That's the kind of thing that journos dream about ....

Best sellers and pulitzer prizes ahoy - a real conspiracy significantly bigger than Watergate or the cigar-in-fanny affair combined!!

Woo-hoo!!

Of course SOME HK bankers may have discovered SOME tungsten-in-gold ...

You can buy any T-in-G you need here:

http://www.tungsten-alloy.com/en/alloy11...
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Re: message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     20-Nov-09 05:25 PM    
Yes,

I also saw that website and thought it might be the origin of the story.

And I ended up at David Ike's website as well. Second time in a week Liam's led me to him!

I'm not really sure whether I'm entertained or worried by the characters such as Ron Paul...
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Re: JAMES STOP READING DAVID IKE YOUR BRAIN IS LEAKING     21-Nov-09 07:38 PM    
james ron Paul is an elected representative and has been for 30 years are you some kind of $%^& or just in denial DENIAL IS AN UGLY THING. ITS WHERE THE COWARDS LURK. THEY SNIPE AND SNEER BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE THE GUTS TO ACKNOWLEDGE A TRUTH. I THINK YOUR OBSSESSED ABOUT DAVID IKE I DONT RATE HIM MUCH.I THINK YOU SHOULD STOP READING HIS BOOKS I THINK YOU KEEP MENTIONING HIM BECAUSE IT HELPS YOUR DENIAL. THE COMEX GOLD AND ETF SCANDALS ARE NOW A REAL PHENOMENON. BUT ITS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTORS, INVESTOR DO LIVE OF RUMOURS(BIT LIKE CONSPIRACY NUTS SUCH AS YOURSELF AND IKE). I DONT BELIEVE YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORIES LIKE HOUSE PRICES ONLY GO UP I WOULD RATHER GO AGAINST THE CROWD THATS WHY BULLS AND BEARS MAKE MONEY, ARROGANT PIGS LIKE YOURSELF GET SLAUGHTERED. BUT I DONT CARE PUT YOUR MONEY IN SLV OR GLD THATS YOUR BUSINESS
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Re: JAMES STOP READING DAVID IKE YOUR BRAIN IS LEAKING     21-Nov-09 09:03 PM    
Liam,

"DAVID IKE I DONT RATE HIM MUCH"

ffs you "rate" him a bit though?? Good grief, I suppose his website does often use capitalised words, and you would be attracted to the advert for monatomic gold.
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Re: message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     22-Nov-09 04:54 AM    
Far out on a Limb,

An interesting reply but not one that answered the question I asked, which was

I have tried to find the original story.
Do you know of a reference to it?

Could you please provide a source, because without one I can't be certain there is a gold scandal going on. In fact without one if I were to try and discuss the scandal with my friends and acquaintances they would think I was nuts.

PS Thanks for the advice that I shouldn't read David Ike books, rest assured I won't pick one up in the foreseeable future.

PPS. “PUT YOUR MONEY IN SLV OR GLD THATS YOUR BUSINESS”
I have a family to support so it would be foolish of me to gamble with our savings on purely speculative investments that offer no return such as gold. I certainly would caution you against betting your loved ones future on gold, and you certainly shouldn't put your house on it.

PPPS “DENIAL IS AN UGLY THING.” I can't resist the opportunity – Common everyone knows that Denial is a big river in Egypt.
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Re: message for declan regarding fraud in the etf's     21-Nov-09 10:25 AM    
Oh well, posted the same not long back Liam, how about a view by Jim Willie, The Golden $%^&:

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/09...

Anyway PM ETFs are great for trading but for long term I wouldn't hold.

All gold contract holders should demand delivery of gold, its the best way to safeguard your own investment.
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