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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Global Warming Vs Consumerism/Economic crisis]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA["Gov'ts worried about immigration due to population migrations driven by climate impacts,"

I think you would find that if state handouts were stopped completley for immigrants, then a massive amount  would not be coming here.

"the survival (of the fittest) is an instinct that is naturally inherent"

Perhaps your above statement is one thing we can gain from some of the immigrants.  After all Western women would not be capable of ovulation if living in the harsh conditons that many would be immigrant woman now exist and breed in.

So perhaps with their bodies being more geared up to extreme hardship, they will be the only ones left to populate this green and pleasent land once we become a dry sun baked terrain.  Face it, they are already having a good 'trial' run.  

My own position on the subject is quite different and I feel the whole 'mankind' is creating global warming thing is overdone.

And whilst I agree with your "the survival (of the fittest) is an instinct that is naturally inherent".  My own reaction to that would be pull up the drawbridge now, whether or not global warming is our doom, and look after our own people first and foremost.   I feel over breeding / overpopulating is far more likely to be our down fall, with or without global warming. 

Surely self preservation, selfish though it may be, is the most basic natural instinct?]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:27:45 GMT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Will RBS Under perform?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-RBS.L&amp;tid=4036&amp;mid=4040</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Hi Moneypenny

Sorry did not mean to upset anyone with selling sentiments but message boards are a great place to see both sides of the coin.

I also do appreciate that there are signs that RBS is on the right track with employment of Hester (turnaround expert), having a reduced loss and their desire to limit participation to the APS (as it shows they have fewer bad assets than expected).

I have only recently come into investing and have been extremely curious on RBS since the start.

But I will heed your advice a get some reinforced underwear :P]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:24:36 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Sean]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Printing money - six months on]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Investing&amp;tid=11046&amp;mid=11051</link>
	<description><![CDATA[The money has gone out of the Country to off set international bad assets and into the coffers of the banks to offset their bad assets so they can claim improved profits in certain areas for bonuses. Just likethe MPs expenses once the dust has settled and the reforms debated, the very reforms that should have come in with the last speaker andthe MPs voted out, will be delayed, watered down, or simply ignored with the same gravy train in place a bit like the actual end game of QE. In 2 - 3 yrs time or less! peole will ask (we each owe £4350 ) what happened to all that money pumped in and MPs, BoE, will shrug and smile and point in three different directions other than at themselves!]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:06:06 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Bilbo B]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: FTSE below 5,000 - investors realise share prices NOT reality!]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[We (FTSE) are in a classic Bear Trap of a bursting bubble. Unless other economies pickup with substance (to export to with the cheap £) then we'r Down Down Down as the Sugar Rush of QE, .5% rates etc etc must end and soon. VAT to go up and a new Govt looming up....]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:00:42 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Bilbo B]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: FTSE below 5,000 - investors realise share prices NOT reality!]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Investing&amp;tid=11032&amp;mid=11049</link>
	<description><![CDATA[We (FTSE) are in a classic Bear Trap of a bursting bubble. Unless other economies pickup with substance (to export to with the cheap £) then we'r Down Down Down as the Sugar Rush of QE, .5% rates etc etc must end and soon. VAT to go up and a new Govt looming up....]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:00:25 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Bilbo B]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: We're Going DOWn....Brace for Impact!]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Investing&amp;tid=10078&amp;mid=11048</link>
	<description><![CDATA[We are in the BEAR TRAP of a bursting Bubble - a classic financial model situation. A trap and bubble we have not been in since the 30s, where it will go you need a crystal ball but it aint going to 5500. Why people waste time on this Thread is very sad. THE BIG question is what wil this economic crisis leave us with versus the major issues of Global Warming and actions to readdress our natural greed, instincts to survive and social polarisation!?
Warren B has trippled his profits on the back of the Bull and Sugar Rush. Is it sustainable is the question. The UK is in a different to other nations and me thinks we will get a BIG lesson. Whihc lesson will it be?]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Bilbo B]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Global Warming Vs Consumerism/Economic crisis]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[It is likely the G20 summit (and in the future) on Global Warming will end without any real unified agreement to tackle what 3500 scientist and climatologists (Bali 
UN Climate Conf etc etc) see as inevitable warming of our planet with resulting major social, environmental and . As the major emitters of CO2 etc fail to agree on immediate ways to tackle this issue, wanting to avoid damaging their own economies. In the UK, US etc people are worried about jobs, economic crisis, assets falling (house prices) Greed of politicians, (who to trust, expense scandals UK and MEPs), duplicitous standards of our consumerist society polarised with the rich few to the unemployed (skilled and unskilled) to Green gurus (Al Gore is a green multi millionare to Prof J Lovelock Gaia guru waking us all up to the facts as far back as the 1970s!).

Time is running out, fast There are many issues wrapped up in this topic, vested interested groups wanting to play down the issue (usually dirty industries), Gov'ts worried about immigration due to population migrations driven by climate impacts, finite water shortages, GM food groups to over fishing, 

Yet humans have tackled major global or regional crisis before, Plague, World Wars, the survival (of the fittest) is an instinct that is naturally inherent, So should we worry about the FTSE, House Prices, North Korea, Iran now? Should these topics be the priority debate? Can we trust our Politicians to do the right thing, or is there a Major shift in our value and belief systems needed to save our children's future? We seem incapable of putting the greater good into practices which spells disaster for the human race. Or is a cataclysmic disaster or WWIII needed to wake us all up!]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:37:25 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Super Alan]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: ANYONE WHO BUYS A HOUSE IN THIS CLIMATE IS RETARDED]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=26123&amp;mid=49304</link>
	<description><![CDATA[The British have been obsessed with house ownership for many years but it was Maggie Thatcher who stepped that up with MIRAS and her wish for all to be house and share owners. No working class - all middle class (some working class TRY to be middle class, normally let down only by the way they behave). BTL is totally legal but somehow like property development a bit flaky.
In Germany no such need to own exists. Most rent, helped by far more solid protective Laws for tenants than in the UK. Germans see no particular advantage in owning.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:28:41 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Louis Superstar DJ]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[How much will House prices rise?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[But the main thing is those who are concerned with house prices who own one in part are involved in some form of real or indirect speculation. Those not concerned see houses purely as housing, not investment or speculation. Which is really what they are ...]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:20:20 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Louis Superstar DJ]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: ANYONE WHO BUYS A HOUSE IN THIS CLIMATE IS RETARDED]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=26123&amp;mid=49302</link>
	<description><![CDATA[I hope the next Govt' really hikes up taxes on BtL to stop this greed. Sad to say most MPs have two homes and flip them to avoid taxes. Which you can also do as a landlord. So the next Govt that at least eludes to stopping the tax loopholes and increases taxes on 2nd homes, BtL will get my vote. Why, because it is just plain greed that got us into this mess in the firstplace And it just perpetuates the stupidity of the UKObsession with house prices and not any form of social responsibility. It is this attitude that gies me no hope for Humans reducing global warming :o)]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:01:35 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Super Alan]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Should YOU take FTSE forecasts from Frankensteins Monster seriously??]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=49250&amp;mid=49301</link>
	<description><![CDATA[If you look closely at the picture you'll see any distortion is an optical illusion caused by the halo.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:33:34 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[James S]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Will RBS Under perform?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-RBS.L&amp;tid=4036&amp;mid=4039</link>
	<description><![CDATA[It amazes me that people on this board who really do believe that RBS is such a bad bet and that we should all sell, still bother to post on here.

Why????

Please, go ahead and sell and then move on.

 Yes, of course there is still a chance that RBS may go belly up, but to be honest, there was much more of a real danger of this a year ago @10p.

And for what it's worth, RBS and the markets will continue to remain volatile for the next 6 months atleast.

Sorry, but all of us are going to need reinforced underwear!!!!]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:34:01 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Moneypenny]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Will RBS Under perform?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[well you are correct   why   should  any   sane  man  or    woman   invest    in    rbs   and   the  reason   why   is   because     it   is    there  and people always invest in the underdog]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter G]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[New Top Seller will hurt bottom line]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Scanning the forums and message boards, many long term sellers who haven't qualified for top seller status will be leaving in droves.  I also notice how many are commenting on how much less they are paying in fees.  But that isn't good news for small sellers - non top sellers are not allowed to access promotion listing features so their items aren't selling.  One seller said her ebay fees have gone from US$400 per month to  US$50.  Add up all these small players and it must surely hurt ebay's bottom line.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:45:59 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[buyandsell]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Will RBS Under perform?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[it    is  simple  mathamatics a   bank  that    sells    all   or   almost   all    of   its assets will bankrupt  its self waithin 6th  month]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:38:30 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter G]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[WORLD'S NATIONS WATCHES AS IRAN BUILDS NUKES!!!]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=49300&amp;mid=49300</link>
	<description><![CDATA[According to leaked documentation from a dossier compiled by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iranian scientists may have tested high-explosive components of the design of a secret technology known as a "two-point implosion" device.

The technology can enable the building of warheads that are simpler and smaller than older ones. By reducing the size of warheads, it is easier to put them on a missile.

Documentation from the dossier, entitled "Possible Military Dimensions of Iran's Nuclear Program" and leaked to The Guardian, refers to experiments testing a two-point detonation design.

The information was partly drawn from reports submitted to the IAEA by Western intelligence agencies. It is part of the evidence of nuclear weaponisation collated by the IAEA that has been presented to Iran for its response.

In the past, the IAEA has regarded such information from Western intelligence agencies with scepticism, particularly since the Iraq war and the faulty reporting of the existence of weapons of mass destruction.

But Mohamed ElBaradei, the IAEA's director general, has said the evidence of Iranian weaponisation "appears to have been derived from multiple sources over different periods of time, appears to be generally consistent, and is sufficiently comprehensive and detailed that it needs to be addressed by Iran".

Some extracts from the dossier had already been made public but it had not been known that it had contained documentation about such an advanced warhead.

"It is breathtaking that Iran could be working on this sort of material," a European government adviser on nuclear issues told The Guardian.

Details of the documents have emerged amid tension over Iran's rejection of a deal that would remove most of its enriched uranium stockpile for a year and replace it with nuclear fuel rods that would be more difficult to turn into weapons.

Tehran has also rejected negotiations, were due to start last week, over its uranium enrichment programme, which is in breach of UN Security Council resolutions.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:17:08 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[LORD GISMYS]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Today may well be a decent day....]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-LLOY.L&amp;tid=11776&amp;mid=11817</link>
	<description><![CDATA[not  so   long  ago  rbs   lloy.l   were  on   a  high  drinking   champagne     on   a  flight   i msee   the   black   horse   ext ect   no   more     loyds     will    recuver    rbs    long   long   time    and   the    likes     of     pci       sey       goo     mrg        gkp    ntog         fto      will laughm   at   you    lol]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:09:03 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter G]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Today may well be a decent day....]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[in   your   dreams]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:51:18 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter G]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Next Dividend?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-UU.L&amp;tid=26&amp;mid=28</link>
	<description><![CDATA[This was last years  Winter dividend, we are led to believe there will be an increase this year. However  the moment the Regulator is considering new rules and that is why the share price is al over the place,

 19 December 2008 (ex-div 17 December 2008) 	 4 February 2009 	 10.64p]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:26:19 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Real Rocky#1]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Next Dividend?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Arthur, here is the official statement to date.

Announcement of half yearly financial report for the six months ending 30 September 2009

25 November 2009]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:20:29 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Real Rocky#1]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Today may well be a decent day....]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Well said female knighton. What is good for the firm is good for us.

It is all too easy to forget (with all this electronic trading) that we shareholders OWN the firm... Well, a bit of it at least!

xx]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:56:13 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[St George]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Best Post ever?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-LLOY.L&amp;tid=11813&amp;mid=11814</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Grimm cant find it can you cut and paste it thanks]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:31:11 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Andrew A]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Will RBS Under perform?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-RBS.L&amp;tid=4036&amp;mid=4036</link>
	<description><![CDATA[The bank has a great deal of repairing on its hands and the recent EU push to limit the amount of branches coupled with the UK moving towards to having a more "competitve" environment for banks will make things tough for some time. Any thoughts?]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:02:12 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Sean]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Best Post ever?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-LLOY.L&amp;tid=11813&amp;mid=11813</link>
	<description><![CDATA[...from one of the most honest posters ever. 850 positive votes on iii can't all be wrong. Worth showing here, if it helps even one investor...

<a href=http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?c...>http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?c...</a> 

All the best
GRim]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:32:09 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Grimancer]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Trading]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-FTC.L&amp;tid=1&amp;mid=4158</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Dow flat today, held over 10,000. Well done on your profits guys - every bit counts.
Good call on defensives will look at BATS after Tesco. Might tike some time to aquire.
Enjoy your Chelsea game, should be a cracker.
All the best
GRim]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:27:09 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Grimancer]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Trading]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-FTC.L&amp;tid=1&amp;mid=4157</link>
	<description><![CDATA[i sold for small profit .how did the dow hold up last night bad news all around now i get the feel we will test new lows I'm out again lol]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:30:51 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Mark M]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Improvement next week?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-LLOY.L&amp;tid=11774&amp;mid=11812</link>
	<description><![CDATA[I personally believe we will see at least 100p prior to RI. I have no intention of selling any shares in the 80s or even low 90s! Do not listen to all the scaremongering that is currently rife - mainly from shorters, or non shorters who have been spooked by shorters.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:29:54 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Sherman]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Trading]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-FTC.L&amp;tid=1&amp;mid=4156</link>
	<description><![CDATA[A brilliant post Grim.....just about sums it all up. lolol]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:25:33 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Moon]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Something to read]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-PXS.L&amp;tid=270&amp;mid=282</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Marco my man

I see DES are placing 60m shares next week.  Do you think there will be a retrace when this happens.  Havent had enough time to research DES yet but have noted your recent posts and watched the rise.

Ian]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:15:06 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Ian C]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: QE and New World Economics]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=48856&amp;mid=49299</link>
	<description><![CDATA[the real problem is trade imbalances which repeated governments have avoided sorting by financial trickery.

the more QE, the bigger the problem coming when it unravels - as the burdens of both debt and bloated governments in the UK mean that the harder we will fall

the question in my mind is just how far below euro parity will that fall be? or will HPs crash by over 30%? or both?

with such a huge deficit combined with such a huge level of borrowing - the Uk is in for a very nasty adjustment

it will be more painful the longer it is delayed

QE just delays and increases the problem!]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:14:54 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Ian]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: House prices falling, rents falling]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=26123&amp;mid=49298</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Louise - you are right - people are used to expecting HPs to rise.

and wil QE there is more money - and RBS has been pumping like mad under Brown

all that is soon to end - and yes - inflation is now rising and will do so even more strongly as the months go by - and that will cause people to be more careful and borrow less - because wages will not rise

so - as most forecasts seem for falls coming next year

and with taxes rising

people can afford less, and will borrow less


so expect the falls to surpass expectations......

the question is - will it just be 6% - or will panic set in?]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:06:37 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Ian]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Hawk]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-GKP.L&amp;tid=1808&amp;mid=1847</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Hi Marco

Did you notice that there was a lot of huge late BUY trades of HAWK before close today?  Wonder if some news has been leaked?  Roll on Monday!  SP surely due a rise soon even if on the news we have already had, that has puzzled me why we didnt get any movement on the recent news.

Have a good weekend
Ian]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:04:04 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Ian C]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: RBS on a jelly roll ...]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=49221&amp;mid=49297</link>
	<description><![CDATA[The average price in the six months preceeding the crash, RBS traded at about 575. 
With the dilution of shares now at about 15% a price of 90p would be a return to previous Market capitalisation.
That price however was in a pre-crash boom. The price may further suffer when the insurance interests are sold off. 200p seems well optimistic.
The bank is a basket case, resurrected with public money.
Well wobbly if you ask me]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:48:52 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Obiwan K]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Is the Current Top 57.5p ??]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-RBS.L&amp;tid=3588&amp;mid=4035</link>
	<description><![CDATA[spot on 57.5p  rbs selling all there assets most people should of seen it  coming  unbelievebly  dum i sold  at 55p i was lucky  some  not  so  fortunate]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:17:28 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter G]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Trading]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-FTC.L&amp;tid=1&amp;mid=4155</link>
	<description><![CDATA[825 votes going up

<a href=http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn%3ASXX.L&display=discussion&action=detail&id=5545111>http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn%3ASXX.L&display=discussion&action=detail&id=5545111</a>]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:12:45 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Grimancer]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: what would u do?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-LLOY.L&amp;tid=11614&amp;mid=11811</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Forgot to add this... Estimated loss for Lloyds banking group 1.2B, I can live with that but it must be woth a fortune to buy?]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:56:35 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[ANDREW T]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: what would u do?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-LLOY.L&amp;tid=11614&amp;mid=11810</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Thanks for advise, I am inclined to sell some now so that I have the cash to buy at least some of the RI, I have a question though.
 Will there be a rump issue of cash to people who dont take up the offer? ( I have read these boards and I am still not sure, I also read the prospectus but I got lost after my 6th pint!! )
 Off the topic but how much would you pay for a bank with 600 branches spread throughout the UK with an internet arm, including fully trained staff in every branch?]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:51:13 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[ANDREW T]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: How much will House prices fall?]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=21335&amp;mid=49295</link>
	<description><![CDATA[I agree estate angents are giving plenty of hype about house prices but this does not stack up if you google search sold prices by Nationwide. Nationwide statistics on sold prices show house prices in my area are now down to 2005 prices but estate agents are saying they are much higher and nearer 2008 prices befor the drop.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:39:26 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[PETER]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Pepe's Code]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-RBS.L&amp;tid=4029&amp;mid=4034</link>
	<description><![CDATA[I think we're all starting to become quite fluent in this lingo.
Roll on Monday when Pepe cranks up his PC and gets onto the RBS message board - we'll actually be able to converse, sensibly, with him!]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:30:57 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter K]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[$$$ LOAN OFFER APPLY]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-CreditCardsLoans&amp;tid=1118&amp;mid=1238</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Now you are in the right place to get the fund LOAN  coinoil1@live.com]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:02:16 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[chris]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: LOAN OFFER GUARANTEED.]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-CreditCardsLoans&amp;tid=1118&amp;mid=1237</link>
	<description><![CDATA[I also offer fund to individuals, Firms and cooperate bodies at 3% interest rate per annum and 5% interest rate monthly base, ranging from $5,000.00 minimum to $900,000,000.00 ABOVE, fund terms determinant, fund for developing businesses a competitive edge/ business expansion. -Low Down or Zero Money Financing contact now via Email: coinoil1@live.com   
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:59:43 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[chris]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: RBS on a roll ...]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=49221&amp;mid=49294</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Louis,

RBS did fail. 

And it has been catastrophic for Britain.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:25:41 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[andrew m]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Trading]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-FTC.L&amp;tid=1&amp;mid=4154</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Hello Grim/Jax - did I say the FTSE is getting to be ridiculous lol. This afternoon’s action was ….all action. I don’t think anyone knew what was happening with the big swings. Again, I put my money on and took my chance lol. It’s been a roulette wheel of late. I’m wearing down my longs now so I’m going to have to protect them a bit and not cash in too early. Pity you didn’t keep TSCO but I think there will be a drop at some point. We keep getting false alarms with the rising $ but that’s at the centre of everything. Once that goes on a run, equities are going to get hammered. I think that’s what the big players are waiting for. Whenever it looks like it’s going to happen, something  scuppers it. They like scuppering a big pullback in the markets lol. You’ll have to think like Warren Buffett with TSCO and buy and hold for the rest of your life and then the ups and down won’t matter lol. Mind you, tell that to the people who bought Aviva for £10.00 or HBoS for £10.00 (and dare I say it…NRK for £12.00). Sometimes it works to just buy and hold and sometimes it doesn’t but shares like TSCO, GSK and BATS and you can’t really go wrong because they’re growing all the time, even during a recession.
They’d priced into the markets £50 billion of QE so when it was only £25 billion, it was ok. Just means they can up it again next time. Just shows how bad it is really when they have to keep doing that. It’s just storing up problems further down the line.
I may watch The Ring tonight, funnily enough….after Benidorm lol. That’s should keep me up all night, jumping at any little noise.

A bad result for Liverpool. To lose like that must be a sickened, what with their record in the Champions League. They’ve slipped in the Premiership as well so their season is over already to be honest. You’ll be looking for a win at the weekend, to keep the confidence going but Blackburn will be a tough task. Still, you never know.

Jax - hope you cashed in your ASX long, if you held on! You would have made quite a few points there. As for gold…everyman and his dog is shorting it but it just keeps ploughing on. I’ll just stick to the FTSE lol


Well, enjoy your weekend boys and we’ll see what Monday brings…decorating for me lolol

Moon]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:25:21 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Moon]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Pepe's Code]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/UK_Stocks/threadview?bn=UKF-Stocks-RBS.L&amp;tid=4029&amp;mid=4033</link>
	<description><![CDATA[Big bad dogs hummmm, wait til 29p understand.

Quite simple to pick up the lingo really.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:24:59 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[B.S]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: FTSE 6500 plus by year end 2010]]></title>
	<link>http://uk.messages.finance.yahoo.com/Your_Money/threadview?bn=UKF-Property&amp;tid=48986&amp;mid=49293</link>
	<description><![CDATA["no idea about the jargon but i always wanted to by a boat and go sailing. "

lol Liam, you didn't understand the jargon, you can't go sailing on louise's boats - Louise is babbling about toy boats and planes...the r/c is radio controlled, that's how theses toy plane geeks refer to their toys.  They do tend to get excited about the terminology so best to pretend that this isn't just boys games but "real engineering".  lol]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:56 GMT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: RBS on a roll ...]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[No I was not gloating. I would never do that. RBS Shares are a good buy and still are. If RBS had failed the results direct and indirect would have been catastrophic for Britain. Remember RBS and many other Banks made a bad call on Mortgage Based Derivatives (and their relations). These same Derivatives were described by one Gordon Brown (quote) as "the ingenuity of the Market" ... (!)
As to these forms of Derivatives, they were stenuously tested for mathematical risk and soundness by many Universities bith UK and US. They were given a total "all clear", bar one only event in those reports (at end).
They offered a amazing thing. Lend on Mortgages, get all your money back immediately, instead of in tiny pieces over 25 or 30 years. A form of Alchemy.
And the single and only flaw? They would not work if .... house prices went ....down.]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:13 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Louis Superstar DJ]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Pepe's Code]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[You're right SajM.
That last little "Hummmmmmmmmm" makes all the difference to the meaning......]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:10:56 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Peter K]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Pepe's Code]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Not strictly correct I'm afraid.

You missed the almighty.

"Huuuuuummmmmmmmmm"

Have a good weekend.

Saj]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:04:43 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Saj M]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Trading]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Can't blame you for that Jax lol. Hope the ASX long went well for you. Kind of skated over the last bit of your first message, as didn't understand. Thought I was being a bit thick, so glad you cleared that up lol.
Assumed that Union would be in the top 5 Aussie favourite sports. Is League more popular? Guess there is little less conversation, & a lot more action.
No trading going on here - keeping an eye out more for Royal Mail strike news. Might have to sue them for loss of earnings, now & future loss of customers lol. 
How d'you go today Moon? Sidelines or full on long/short frenzy? Surprised again to see market enjoy RBS & BAY monumental losses. Must have priced in bigger ones, or shrugged the shoulders & say "what the hell", in for a penny, in for a billion pound.
If ever you are hoovering around iii, have a look at a great post by Bonobo on SXX board Thursday morning. 550 +votes speak for itself. Can't believe one person would create that many aliases to do that lolol.
Hope the weekend is great for you guys
All the best
GRim]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:01:32 GMT</pubDate>
	<author><![CDATA[Grimancer]]></author>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Hawk]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[dream on .8p]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:33:09 GMT</pubDate>
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